
JUST JUSTICE
Just Justice takes a deep-dive into the world of second chances for people who commit serious crimes. We talk to academics, policy makers, advocates, crime survivors and people who are formerly incarcerated and look at the idea of second chances for people serving life without parole and other extreme prison sentences. Who gets a second chance? Who deserves one? Who decides?
My name is Jessica Henry and I’ll be your host. I’m a former public defender, professor and an award-winning author. I can’t wait to explore second chances with you.
What would it take for you to give someone a second chance?
Episodes
Tuesday Jun 24, 2025
Tuesday Jun 24, 2025
Michael Pinard has devoted his entire career to advocating for children and fighting against the racial biases that often accompany their mistreatment in our legal systems. A former public defender turned law professor, Michael's work focuses on the intersection between race and the civil, criminal and juvenile justice systems. Michael is the faculty director of the Gibson-Banks Center for Race and the Law and director of the Clinical Law Program at the University of Maryland School of Law. He also is an old friend of mine, going way back to our days at NYU School of Law. If you care about children and justice, you won't want to miss this episode of Just Justice.
To learn more about Michael Pinard's work, go to: https://www.law.umaryland.edu/faculty--research/directory/profile/index.php?id=093
To learn more about Jessica Henry, go to www.jessicahenryjustice.com
Tuesday Jun 10, 2025
Tuesday Jun 10, 2025
Phillip Alvin Jones is incarcerated in a Washington prison, where he is serving two life sentences plus twenty years for a crime he committed many years ago in Maryland. Although he has been in prison for over thirty years, he has used his time to be an agent of change, both inside and outside the walls. Phillip hosts the podcast, The Wall: Behind and Beyond, and runs his own company, Phillip A. Jones, LLC., which seeks to transform our justice system by working towards a future where justice and rehabilitation meet. In this episode of Just Justice, Phillip and I talk about prison, books, and how he stays focused on being free in all the ways that matter. Join us.
For more information about Phillip Alvin Jones:
To contact Phillip directly at Airway Heights Corrections Center in Washington:
1. Create a Securus account here: https://securustech.online/#/login
2. Search for Airway Heights Corrections Center
3. Alvin Jones,DOC number: 881507
To learn more about Phillip's work, go to https://www.phillipajonesconsultingllc.com/.
To listen to his podcast, The Wall: Behind and Beyond, https://www.youtube.com/c/TheWallBehindandBeyondPodcast
For more information about Jessica Henry, go to www.jessicahenryjustice.com.
Tuesday May 27, 2025
Tuesday May 27, 2025
S1EP21 Bryan Widenhouse: Advocate, Artist and JLWOP Survivor
Bryan Widenhouse received a life without parole sentence when he was only 17 years old. During his 31 year incarceration, some of which was spent at the notorious Angola prison, Bryan chose to serve others as a path toward accountability and redemption. When a change in law allowed Bryan to be released, he seized the opportunity to continue serving others. Bryan now works as a State Legislative Affairs Manager for FAMM, challenging extreme sentences and promoting second look laws. He has spoken to members of Congress, testified to legislators, and helped to develop a Speakers’ Bureau to change the narrative around extreme sentences. In this episode of Just Justice, I talk with Bryan about the importance of second chances, his art, and the power of community service to heal and transform.
To see a small sample of Bryan's art:
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To learn more about the National LWOP Leadership Council and the Speakers' Bureau of former lifers, as well as a wealth of information about LWOP and our efforts to abolish the sentence: https://www.beyondlwop.org/national-lwop-leadership-council/
To learn about FAMM: https://famm.org/
To learn more about Jessica Henry, go to www.jessicahenryjustice.com
Tuesday May 13, 2025
Tuesday May 13, 2025
Ruth Greenberg has been called the Massachusetts mama of medical parole. As a trail blazer and a defense lawyer, Ruth has devoted her extensive career to fighting on behalf of the poor and the incarcerated. On this episode of Just Justice, Ruth tells us about her leading role in the push for compassionate release in Massachusetts, and shares stories about the successful fight against life without parole for people under the age of 21 in her state.
To learn more about Ruth and her work:
POV: Governor Baker Should Not Be Afraid to Set Dying Prisoners Free, https://www.bu.edu/articles/2019/pov-governor-baker-should-not-be-afraid-to-set-dying-prisoners-free-2/
Cement Head’s last fight: He was denied parole six times — until he was about to become a Covid-19 statistic, https://www.statnews.com/2021/04/14/deathbed-double-standard-its-hard-to-get-released-on-medical-parole-unless-you-have-covid19/
Massachusetts high court rules younger adults cannot be sentenced to life without parole, https://whdh.com/news/massachusetts-high-court-rules-younger-adults-cannot-be-sentenced-to-life-without-parole/Learn more about Jessica Henry at www.jessicahenryjustice.com
Tuesday Apr 29, 2025
Tuesday Apr 29, 2025
This week on Just Justice, we’re taking a hard look at life sentences in America—a country where one in six incarcerated people is serving life behind bars. That’s nearly 200,000 individuals, making the U.S. one of the most punitive nations in the world. Host Jessica Henry sits down with Dr. Ashley Nellis, a leading sentencing expert and soon-to-be Assistant Professor at American University’s School of Public Affairs. Together, we unpack the findings of Ashley's latest "lifer census"—who’s serving life, for what crimes, and why it matters. Plus, Ashley makes a bold call: end life sentences altogether. Tune in for a powerful conversation about justice, reform, and the future of sentencing in America.
Learn More:
Learn more about Dr. Ashley Nellis at her website, www.ashleynellis.com
Read the report: A Matter of Life: the Scope and Impact of Life and Long Term Imprisonment in the United States
Learn more about Jessica Henry at www.jessicahenryjustice.com
Tuesday Apr 15, 2025
Tuesday Apr 15, 2025
Danielle Sered is the founder and director of Common Justice, the first alternatives-to-incarceration and victim-service program in the United States. Danielle is also a violent crime survivor and author of the award-winning book, Until We Reckon: Violence, Mass Incarceration, and a Road to Repair. In this episode of Just Justice, Danielle talks about the power of restorative justice to help survivors heal from violent crime, what crime survivors say they want and need, and her view that prison is not the best way to bring accountability and to prevent future crimes.
Learn More:
About Danielle Sered's impactful work:
About Common Justice: https://commonjustice.org/
To find Danielle's excellent book, Until We Reckon: Violence, Mass Incarceration, and a Road to Repair
About your host, Jessica Henry:
Website: http://jessicahenryjustice.com/
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Watch my TEDx talk No-Crime Wrongful Convictions here.
Tuesday Apr 01, 2025
Tuesday Apr 01, 2025
What happens to people in prison who face terminal illnesses? Or develop dementia? Or who are just very old? Must they die alone in prison? Or should they be released to spend their final days at home? How do we make that happen? In this episode of Just Justice, Mary Price, General Counsel of FAMM, walks us through the complex and often cruel world of compassionate release. FAMM has led the fight for better and more effective compassionate release policies for the elderly and infirm, and Mary has been at the forefront of that movement. Mary has testified before the U.S. Sentencing Commission, appeared on PBS NewsHour, NPR's Morning Edition and All Things Considered, and the New York Times, among other major national news outlets. She is the author of Everywhere and Nowhere : Compassionate Release in the States (2018). Join us on this informative and sometimes heartbreaking episode of Just Justice.
For more information about Mary Price, FAMM, and her work on compassionate release:
You can learn more about Mary Price: https://famm.org/team/mary-price/
You can read her excellent report Everywhere and Nowhere: Compassionate Release in the States
To see how your state ranks in compassionate release practices, go to: FAMM's Compassionate Release Report Cards: Grading the States
For more information about Jessica Henry, go to her website at: http://jessicahenryjustice.com/
Tuesday Mar 18, 2025
Tuesday Mar 18, 2025
Eve Hanan wrote a law review article called Terror and Tenderness in Criminal Law that blew my mind. She makes the argument that opportunities for leniency in the criminal legal system -- parole, clemency, compassionate release -- seduce us into believing the system is just and merciful, when in reality, the system is far too harsh for far too many. She even takes on the idea of hope and suggests that hope is a distraction from the challenges of our system and the path toward real and meaningful reform. I hope you'll enjoy listening to this conversation as much as I enjoyed having it.
Episode Links:To learn more about Eve Hanan: https://law.unlv.edu/faculty/eve-hananTo read her excellent law review article Terror and Tenderness in Criminal Law: https://cardozolawreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/HANAN.45.2.4_WEB-1.pdf
To learn more about Jessica Henry go to www.jessicahenryjustice.com
Tuesday Mar 04, 2025
Tuesday Mar 04, 2025
This week on Just Justice we talk with Marissa Bluestine, Assistant Director of the Quattrone Center for the Fair Administration of Justice at the University of Pennsylvania Carey Law School. Marissa is a former innocence lawyer and one of the nation's leading experts on Conviction Integrity Units (CIUs). CIUs are specialized units within prosecutor offices that review convictions with strong claims of actual innocence. Marissa guides us through the work of CIUs to identify wrongful convictions and exonerate the innocent, and gives us an insider perspective on what works and what doesn't. Join us for this fascinating episode.
To learn more about Marissa Bluestine and the work of the Quattrone Center:Marissa Bluestine: https://www.law.upenn.edu/faculty/mbluQuattrone Center: https://www.law.upenn.edu/institutes/quattronecenter/
To learn more about CIUs:Conviction Review Unit: a National Perspective (2016) https://www.law.upenn.edu/live/files/5522-cru-final (report by the Quattrone Center)
To learn more about Jessica Henry:Website: http://jessicahenryjustice.com/ Watch her TEDx talk No-Crime Wrongful Convictions here.Subscribe to her newsletterLearn more about her award-winning book Smoke but No Fire
Tuesday Feb 18, 2025
Tuesday Feb 18, 2025
This week on Just Justice we peel back the curtain on the inner workings of the federal clemency process with law professor Rachel Barkow, a nationally-recognized expert in the field. Professor Barkow walks us through the stunningly complex and inefficient pardon application process, rates Presidents Obama, Biden and first-term Trump in their pardon efforts, and speculates about what we might expect from a second-term Trump administration.
To learn more about Professor Rachel Barkow:
Go to her faculty profile at https://its.law.nyu.edu/facultyprofiles/index.cfm?fuseaction=profile.biography&personid=20660
Link to Prisoners of Politics: Breaking the Cycle of Mass Incarceration: https://www.amazon.com/Prisoners-Politics-Breaking-Cycle-Incarceration/dp/0674919238
Link to her forthcoming book (out in March) Justice Abandoned: How the Supreme Court Ignored the Constitution and Enabled Mass Incarceration: https://www.amazon.com/Justice-Abandoned-Supreme-Constitution-Incarceration/dp/067429422X/ref=sr_1_2?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.kUKG1SWXX95ejgcdbzYq1Ntmoyu8zP4D8T7GzRBBbIc.LJ3jH0pxb-v-3pyTU5ekGkDNxWd45WOomscPcb6OdfM&dib_tag=se&qid=1739897708&refinements=p_27%3ARachel+Elise+Barkow&s=books&sr=1-2
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Website: http://jessicahenryjustice.com/
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